Interracial Dating Is Wrong
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Over 1.4 million people visit BlackPeopleMeet every month, making it one of the most popular dating sites for black and interracial daters. Whether you’re looking for a casual date, committed relationship, or even marriage, BlackPeopleMeet makes it easy for you to find what you want — thanks to its free sign-up, simplified layout, and fun communication tools (e.g., audio and video messages. This Scripture does not support the forbidding of interracial marriage and certainly should not be used as a church’s policy to forbid interracially married couples from becoming members. This is why the Samaritans were looked down upon so much, but not by Jesus as evidenced by the Samaritan Woman at the Well (John 4:4-26).
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| Voting Style: | Open | Point System: | 7 Point | ||
| Started: | 7/16/2017 | Category: | People | ||
| Updated: | 3 years ago | Status: | Debating Period | ||
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Why Interracial Dating Is Wrong
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Pro When it comes to sustainability, any practice, any species, any thing that cannot sustain itself, dies off, as it is inherently unsuited to survive as an idea or being. To be laconic, interracial dating destroys the possibilities for interracial dating. If someone cites 'expanding my options' as a reason for dating outside of their race, they must first realize that the only way they are able to do so, the only way they have the many options available to them, is because people have NOT dated outside of their race. For that reason, perhaps the biggest proponent of diversity is homogeneity, or rather, inner-racial dating. Unsustainable practices are fundamentally flawed, as they simply cannot sustain themselves. Because of this, why should we endorse and/or legalize a practice that is unsustainable, and erases the genetic diversity - the uniqueness - of pure races, the pure races that give such cancerous practices the opportunity to initially thrive? In essence, in no other aspect of life, be it the life of humans or separate organisms, do we promote and/or legalize practices that pose a threat to the existential nature of the pure organism. This says that we value difference - we value diversity, and diversity and interracial dating are fundamentally mutually exclusive; for this reason, interracial dating is unarguably wrong. Con Your argument on this topic is flawed. First, let us review what we currently understand about genetics and evolution. Let us first remember that the concept of race in our society is somewhat of a delusion [1]. Varying 'races' are merely humans that have been geographically separated for a long enough time to begin to develop traits that best suit them for their environment. As it stands, races are merely groups of humans with distinct genomes that vary significantly (as far as a genome within a species can vary) when compared with other races, but not their own [2]. When you talk about interracial dating, you're talking about two humans who have been evolutionarily separated and possess distinct genomes that are likely quite different from the genomes of their own race (again, in the context of intraspecies comparisons since conformity among intraspecies is extremely conserved). For this argument, I will assume that diversity is by means of genetic diversity since this is the empirical way of determining diversity in science. This is important to remember as we move forward in our conversation. When any species reproduces using sexual reproduction (as humans do), two organisms swap their genetic information (in the form of the DNA) producing an entirely unique genome in their offspring [4]. For this reason, I find your statement, 'the biggest proponent of diversity is homogeneity,' to be quite disturbing. Dogs are a great example as to why this simply isn't true. When you cross two homogenous dogs-- let's say two labs-- what is the result? Another labrador, of course. What happens when you cross a labrador and a beagle? A dog that is entirely unique and that cannot exist outside of heterogeneous mating [5]. The same is true of humans. When persons from two different races (that is, two individuals with relatively distinctive genomes) mate, they produce offspring which possess genomes that would not be possible without this interracial reproduction. This most certainly increases diversity among the human genome. Now, where I believe the root of your argument comes from is summarized by your statement, 'just as two dyes- when mixed - create on dye at the expense of both dyes, interracial dating does the same.' Although this is a clever analogy and may be literally true (dyes that are combined lose their individuality to make a new dye), your argument is flawed and out of context. You're asserting that by allowing interracial dating, we would lose what some would consider, for lack of a better term, the 'stock' of our species. In other words, you're saying if we mix blue and red to make purple, we will have purple but no blue or red and therefore we should not mix those colors so that we can preserve the original colors. The problem with this is that we're not dumping all the red and the blue in the world together. In fact, we're doing a fantastic job of conserving our 'racial' genetics. In the United States, for example, although the rate of interracial marriage is up, it is still well below one fourth of all marriages [3]. Even if it did reach twenty-five percent or even fifty percent, there's still a good chunk of the population that's not mixing their colors. Take dogs again, for example. Although dog breeding is popular across breeds, do we still have what some call 'pure breeds' such as beagles? Of course we do. As long as even less than twenty-five percent of the population sustains homogeneous mating, we will still be able to conserve our stock species. And I'm even using the United States as an example, not even talking about countries whose populations are radically homogeneous to begin with [6]. In short, it is extremely unlikely that we will run out of our reds and blues while we make our purple. However, if we refuse to mix our reds and blues at all then we will never have our purple at all. That most certainly is inhibiting the proliferation of diversity, and therefore you cannot say that interracial dating is destroying diversity. [1] https://anthropology.net... [2] http://evolution.berkeley.edu... [3] http://www.npr.org... [4] http://ib.bioninja.com.au... [5] http://www.pnas.org... [6] https://www.washingtonpost.com... |
Pro Your critique of the 'dye' analogy is false, as we DO in-fact lose the colors red and blue, to make purple. For the sake of simplicity, suppose there are two people remaining on earth - a White person and a Black person. If a White person mixes with a Black person, the product is a mixed child. Once these two parents die off, the only race left is a Mixed race, having gone from two races, to one. This Mixed race child cannot create a purely Black or purely White child; it can only create another mixed child. Now, suppose there was an Asian person for this Mixed person to mix with. Now, the Mixed person mixes with the Asian, and creates a Mixed child who is Black, White, and Asian. The two parents die off, and now Asian is lost, and the only remaining product is a Mixed child. In effect, we've just lost 3 races, for the creation of 1. If you're arguing that interracial mixing is okay because despite those that mix, there are those that don't mix and thus preserve the 'stock' of each race, you're basically arguing my point; my point is that interracial mixing steals from the racial diversity created through homogeneity, and if it were self-sustaining then why does it depend on homogeneity to exist? It's the equivalent of my child telling me, 'I can squander your money, because I always have you around to make more of it'. That child is engaging in an unsustainable practice, and the only way he can engage in that practice is because he is leeching off of another sustainable practice, which has the potential to compromise the sustainability of the sustainable practice. Interracial mixing is said 'child'. It is deductive in nature, and 'spends' (if you will) the racial diversity wrought by homogeneity. It's a concept that - if left to stand alone - destroys itself, as it inherently depletes racial purity, the very racial purity that makes interracial mixing possible. In essence, the relationship interracial mixing has to homogeneity, is conceptually parasitic. Interracial dating isn't possible without homogeneity; seeing as, if you mix the original colors, there becomes no original colors to mix. Such a deductive act only destroys homogeneity, the same homogeneity that is the source of all diversity. I'm not arguing the genetic construction of humans, although, as a Biochemistry Major, I could. I'm not arguing the genetic history of humans, although I could - this isn't about that. It's about preserving difference, and interracial mixing destroys the very difference it is alleged to create. A visual of the deductive nature of interracial mixing can be found here - https://ibb.co... Con I think that there may be some confusion on my claim with geographical separation. Genetic variation in our species has occurred largely due to geographic isolation across our planet. Populations historically arrested to Asia tend to have distinct variations with those bound to North America. Races aren't merely defined by geographic separation, but geographic separation is the medium by which genetic variation occurs [1][2]. Let’s examine a hypothetical. Let’s say every family has three children. Even if one child in every generation enters into an interracial marriage, that’s still two children that marry homogenously and conserve their stock genome. I’m being extremely generous to you in this scenario, because even in the United States the real rate is less than that at 13% (again, I stress, one of the most heterogenous countries on Earth), not 33%. Therefore, in our world it is perfectly sustainable to partake in interracial marriages since, even in my generous scenario, two homogenous children will replace their homogenous parents. Even if the percentage of homogenous populations decreases in comparison with heterogenous populations (meaning there are more racially mixed persons on the planet than not), homogenous populations are not at risk for extinction. It is important to make this distinction and not to confuse the two. We are not at danger of losing the stock genomes of our species. Overall in the world, interracial marriages are extremely rare. Meanwhile, the amount of diversity created from interracial marriages increases, which leads into my second point. -- I look forward our final round. Well done so far! This has been a great debate. [1] http://www.harunyahya.com...-(allopathic [2] http://www.newsweek.com... [3] http://www.npr.org... [4] http://www.un.org... |
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I Think Interracial Dating Is Wrong
Why are black folks so infatuated with interracial dating?
It sounds like a blanket statement. Of course, all black folks aren’t obsessed with interracial dating. However, it seems like almost daily I come across a news post, and columns in magazines and blogs dedicated to black folks, speaking about the glory of dating outside of the black community. They ask stupid questions like Are Black Women Better off with White Men? and write guidebooks about snagging a white man (including the helpful tip of how to order wine the “white” way). And if they are not expounding on your personal choice on whom you date, than they are highlighting all the wonderful interracial couples in Hollywood. There are swirling sites run by black men and women and even a forthcoming coming film, which hopes to appeal to the “Rainbeau” dater in all of us.
So yeah, excuse me if I generalize by saying that nobody talks more about interracial dating than black folks. I mean, you just don’t see the topic broached in mainstream magazines like GQ or Vogue. You don’t see white therapists or white relationship experts or other white folks with alphabets behind their names and a platform, spouting the virtues of dating black men and women. Let’s face it: when it comes to reporting about “Jungle Fever,” this virus is only at epidemic proportions in the African American press.
But while the topic has no doubt been beaten to death by the black media there are still no shortages of articles directed towards interracial relationships. So obviously these stories are very popular, which is why these publications continue to put them out. After all, stories mean page clicks, and page clicks equates to dollars. And if there are folks willing to read it, than you can place the blame solely on black media for continuing to cater to their audience.
Which leads me to ask: If the color of the person we choose to date doesn’t matter, why do we talk about it so much?
Here is the standard disclaimer: I don’t have a problem with two folks of different races – or same gender for that matter – hooking up. Some people really do date outside of their race out of love and not some underlying motive. Okay, now that that’s out of the way; it’s the other would-be Rainbeau daters, who bother the hell out of me. These folks are the ones that go around touting anything but black as proof positive of equality, social advancement and worse, the magic solution to cure all problems within the black community. Unemployment rate is high? Get a white girl. Violence plaguing the community? You know what could solve that? Dating a white man. Can’t find your car keys? Girl, get yourself a white boy. They never lose their keys!
Let’s face it, no matter how far we think we have come in this society, as a race, too many of us are still looking, waiting and idolizing the white savior.
Yet science says that some of the same problems we find within the community can also be found interracially: In fact, the rate of divorce and domestic violence is much higher within interracial relationships and the incidence of spousal homicide is 7.7 higher in interracial relationships than in monoracial relationships. So much for thinking that the milk is less spoiled on the other side.
Truth is, championing dating interracially to empower the black community, particularly black women, is no more logical or rational than the colorblind racists, who believe that breeding ourselves into one in-between race will fix the world (yeah, like that worked for the Chinese and the Japanese). How we empower our people is by teaching self-love and by erasing those mental chains that tell us that “we” are inherently bad. We heal the world by recognizing cultural differences, and yes skin tone, and by ensuring that our differences do not lead to inequality. That is how we live interracially.
However, if you are using love and sex as some sort of political statement, position for advancement or weapon of revenge and conquest, than you are no better, and odds are, you’re more part of the problem than you think.
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